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TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) — A top Israeli Cabinet minister headed to Washington on Sunday for talks with U.S. officials, sparking a rebuke from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, according to an Israeli official, in a sign of widening cracks in Israel’s wartime government nearly five months into its war with Hamas.

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 47 points 2 months ago

Like GW Bush, Netanyahu's party was losing support and about to lose power.

Then one of the supposedly greatest intelligence systems fails, allows an attack, and they use a disproportionate response to prolong a conflict and say that they're now the only ones who can lead us through it.

Luckily Israeli voters don't seem to be falling for it.

Netanyahu has tanked in popularity since the war broke out, according to most opinion polls, with many Israelis holding him responsible for Hamas’ cross-border raid that left 1,200 people, mostly civilians, dead and roughly 250 people, including women, children and older adults, abducted and taken into Gaza, according to Israeli authorities.

The subsequent fighting has killed at least 30,410 Palestinians, around two-thirds of them women and children, according to Gaza’s Health Ministry, which does not distinguish between civilians and fighters. Around 80% of the population of 2.3 million have fled their homes, and U.N. agencies say hundreds of thousands are on the brink of famine.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 2 months ago

Luckily Israeli voters don’t seem to be falling for it.

Well to be fair, it took about twenty fucking years or more of Israeli voters falling for it for it to become completely clear to them that Netanyahu is a criminal who is full of shit. He's the Israeli version of Trump moreso than Bush.

[-] Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

not quite.
last elections 70% of eligible voters voted.
likud has gotten around 24% of their votes.
this was about the same even in the election before that.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 months ago
[-] Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

missed out an important part:

..the overall vote in many of these cities was not for right-wing parties – it was simply split between multiple candidates on the Center or Left.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Eh, Palestinians boycott those local elections because they don't get a national vote as part of apartheid.

Which, yeah, sounds like a bad plan. Take what representation you have and fight for more.

But that's why the far right wins those elections and also why things don't get better. I'm sure there's lots of propaganda at play

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Just like those silly Russians that don't partake in elections which is the reason Putin keeps winning.

Not because there's surveillance cameras inside of the voting booths where Arabs vote

[-] Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

which happened once by likud activists.
and yet more arab israelis voted than ever before in the election after that.

[-] Furedadmins@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

This article is framing it like he is unpopular because of the year initial terrorist attack and not the planned genocide that followed it.

[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

That's because the war is still wildly popular domestically.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

It's both. He was unpopular before that and hoped that a way would keep him in power.

[-] SloppyPuppy@lemmy.world -5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

use a disproportionate response

I wonder then what would in your opinion be a proportionate response for killing, raping, slaughtering, burning, mutilating 1200 people? not to mention the kidnaps

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This is like if I walked up to someone at 7am and kicked them in the balls every 15 minutes until noon.

Then at 12:01 he pushes me away before I can, so I beat the shit out of him and tell him that's what he gets for pushing me.

Anyone that hasn't just started paying attention is going to say I'm at fault.

Unless I guess the other person is brown, then everyone will tell me how brave I am.

[-] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 47 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The fact that your ethnic group went through a holocaust doesn’t give you a free pass to cause one.

[-] Binthinkin@kbin.social 1 points 2 months ago

Israel would fare well if Bibi wound up a vegetable like Sharon did.

He’s so bad for the world and Israel. He’s basically a criminal in a shitty politicians clothing.

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