submitted 2 weeks ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

The International Cricket Council has become the latest sports body to ban transgender players from the elite women’s game if they have gone through male puberty.

The ICC said it had taken the decision, following an extensive scientific review and nine-month consultation, to “protect the integrity of the international women’s game and the safety of players”.

It joins rugby union, swimming, cycling, athletics and rugby league, who have all gone down a similar path in recent years after citing concerns over fairness or safety.

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[-] sealhaslupus@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago

I’m going to go out on a limb and say that not many users on Lemmy follow Cricket or understand it fully. My comment isn’t going to cover if the decision by the ICC is correct (or otherwise) but to provide a little insight into the men and women’s games

Speed / pace is a noticeable difference between the sexes. I don’t believe there are any current female players that consistently bowl pace over 120km/h. In contrast, male pace bowlers generally try to meet a consistent speed of 135km/h for the same role. The upper bounds for men is roughly 160km/h and maybe only one or two pro players globally can do this.

There are enough men’s bowlers who can bowl at 150km/h. At this speed an average batter would find it difficult to see the ball. Arguably batters in baseball receive faster pitches but at 150km/h+ including the ball bouncing makes it incredibly difficult to face.

The batting is also different but it might be harder to explain to a non-cricketing audience why this is.

[-] BillyTheSkidMark@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago

To add extra weight to this comment. It is a common tactic to attempt to "bounce" a batter out, which basically means bowling with enough speed at such a short length that it comes towards the body, and especially, the head. If a batter is unprepared, it usually requires getting out of the way because trying to play a shot is likely to end up with you getting out or struck by the ball.

The ball is much harder and denser than a baseball and even a famous up and coming professional, international, batter died when he failed to get out of the way and was struck in the head.

Basically, there is a very real safety concern for players when it comes to something like this.

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[-] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

In theory trans women are superwomen and then in reality they're weaker and derpier than the top female athletes and all of this is just a scare tactic because these theories havent played out in the real world at all.

On the sports angle, esports looked like it would finally be the place for me to be a fan because the athletes are relatable to me. But no, they got bought up by the Saudis, so all I get for relatable media is drag queens and furries or whatever.

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[-] Hegar@kbin.social 16 points 2 weeks ago

Sport is the most boring show on TV by far, and yet the actors are paid insane amounts. The fandom is the most toxic bullshit out there and the show runners encourage it.

Cancel sport already, it's really dumb.

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[-] Thann@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago

My fist thought was "why does the International Criminal Court care"

[-] greenmarty@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Just make it third category.

  • female sports won't get affected
  • fairness will increase
  • fans can watch their own "cup of coffee "
  • possible pretenders will no longer be motivated by easy winning
[-] PotatoKat@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago

It's own category with like 5 people in each sport. Great idea.

[-] greenmarty@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

What is the alternative though that won't ruin female's sports that was built as part or followup of female's emancipation ?

[-] sunbytes@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Some sports do it based on what kind of puberty you went through.

As a significant number of the physical advantages come through going through male puberty.

That could be a good start.

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[-] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

This is just a complete non solution to the problem and effectively just ends up with trans people being banned from sports altogether.

"Trans" sports teams/leagues (whatever that means) can't really exist at the amateur local level anywhere but the biggest citiess due to there being not a lot of trans people, and even less trans people who want to play sports.

The struggle to even get enough trans guys or trans girls to form a team for football or whatever would be a challenge in and of itself, and then this team would pretty much have to fly across the country (or possibly to a different country altogether) to even play a match.

This is not a reasonable solution for anyone but the people who want to ban trans people from sports.

The second issue is that this is just fear mongering and not an actual issue to be solved but that's being argued all over this thread already.

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[-] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Two categories:

  • Women
  • Open

Perfectly fair and simple.

[-] seliaste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's already the case, most sports allow for women to play in men's leagues... But they don't. And trans women would suffer the same way cis women would in men dominated categories (or would they? Depends on the sport I guess, nobody would complain about trans women in F1 Academy I bet)

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

nobody would complain about trans women in F1 Academy I bet)

Fox news was complaining about a trans woman getting a participation medal in the London Marathon, which is a mixed event anyway. Never underestimate how much these people hate trans people.

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[-] snek@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

God I thought it said the international criminal court

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