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YouTube blames ad blockers for slow load times, and it has nothing to do with your browser | The delay is intentional, but targeting users who continue using ad blockers, and not tied to any browse...::YouTube has clarified in a statement that users who use ad blockers will have a suboptimal experience regardless of their browser.

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[-] zephr_c@lemm.ee 174 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, sure. That's why it happens on Firefox even without an adblocker, and goes away when using a user agent switcher to claim you're using Chrome instead of Firefox while using an adblocker. Because it's toooooooootally about adblocking.

[-] 1bluepixel@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

I tried this exact scenario and didn't see any difference in load times. I'm using an ad blocker and it's definitely sluggish, but switching to a Chrome user agent made no difference.

[-] zephr_c@lemm.ee 26 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, people seem to be having very different experiences with it. It might genuinely be them rolling out different versions to different people to bug test it or something like that. Even if that's the case I still think its probably not unintentional that it hurts Firefox more. They do that too much for me to believe it's an accident.

[-] Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

It's hard to tell these days when there's so much A/B testing and stuff going on. I haven't run into this at all personally.

[-] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

It's actually been confirmed that the 5-second wait happens regardless of browser. Even with Chrome.

[-] Goronmon@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago

How thoroughly was this tested? Because you can summarize a lot of these types of timing differences with one word.


And from my experience people tend to overlook this when running casual tests like this.

[-] MuThyme@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

This is 100% anecdotal of course, but I've noticed weirdly inconsistent behaviour. I have one tab I permanently keep open for YouTube and that one loads videos really fast. If I open a second tab by following a link from that main tab, then it partly loads the site and sits there for a weirdly long time before any content even appears.

I've got a really fast connection too, and nothing else was having issues. This whole thing is bizarre.

[-] RedWeasel@lemmy.world 81 points 2 weeks ago

So if I use Firefox I have a choice between a 5sec delay or a 5sec delay and ads. That seems like an easy choice.

[-] Gigan@lemmy.world 61 points 2 weeks ago

I will stop using youtube before I stop using adblockers.

[-] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

My opinion too. A lot of people say "Oh I couldn't live without it, I'm constantly watching vids on there" so you ask for recommendations, look them up, and it's 99% brain-rotting video porridge

[-] havokdj@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)


[-] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

Have you tried Odysee or Peertube yet?

[-] LWD@lemm.ee 43 points 2 weeks ago

Soon, Firefox will be the only browser left standing that has comprehensive ad blocker support.

I don't believe Google when they say this wasn't intentional.

[-] variants_of_concern@lemmy.one 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The other day my wife asked me "what's that pipe website you use to be able to watch YouTube videos" then I realized it was because she got blocked by YouTube haha

[-] 73rdnemesio@infosec.pub 17 points 2 weeks ago

Android TV: SmartTube

iOS (Sideload or Jailbreak): uYou+

MacOS/Linux/Windows: FreeTube

Every Browser: Invidious

[-] bruhduh@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Android: newpipe, libretube, clipious, skytube, revanced

[-] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Why does nobody ever list ReVanced for Android on these lists?

[-] MrOxiMoron@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

Funny how soon it will seem as if chrome is the most used browser while it's actually Firefox with a user agent change

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I can already imagine the bullshit wired articles about how users are Switching from Firefox to Chrome, remember how they tried to claim people were uninstalling ad blockers, when in reality they were switching to uBlock Origin, that was pretty funny.

[-] Companion1666@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

ask the mainstream users if they using firefox lol

[-] charonn0@startrek.website 9 points 2 weeks ago

I've got Firefox and Ublock, and don't see any delays, warnings, etc. It may have to do with the fact that I'm not signed in with an account.

[-] Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

This also appears to be in an A/B test or something similar. It isn't happening for everyone (yet).

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Remember that just like with everything YouTube doesn't apply changes to all users across the whole site simultaneously. They always do gradual rollout with randomized user impact. So as to not upset or raise too many alarms at the same time. It's been their MO for about 10 years now.

[-] Archr@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

As has been the MO of many large sites for a while now. It's called blue-green deployment.

[-] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah and while I'm sure it is useful for minimizing outrage at controversial changes, it's mainly to prevent rolling out major bugs to too many people

[-] havokdj@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

If that's blue green deployment, then what is red yellow deployment?

[-] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah it looks like they've switched away from the 5-second penalty for having ad blockers to counting down the number of videos you'll be shown, then after 3-2-1 it's 'adblockers violate youtube's toc'

[-] XTornado@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

To be clear that is not new, that was a thing already before. Like from around July some people were already getting that.

[-] BlackSkinnedJew@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'm using DNS level ad blocking, anyone else not experiencing anything weird?

[-] 018118055@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

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